I was using it all wrong.
Trying to set up dates. Trying to have normal, gamey type texts and conversations.
The match and text exchange.
So anyway, this chick matches with me on Tinder. I send an innocuous message: hey what’s up X I like your style.
She immediately replies.
After a half hour, I respond to her response.
I reply to her reply right away. She replies again immediately.
I wait an hour or so and then reply.
She texts back within a few minutes, so I reply let’s get off the app, send me your number. Again, immediate response.
We exchange a few more texts and then I go for the date request thinking of the two date model: hey, let’s get some coffee, I’m free this day and that day.
No reply, even though I can see she’s read it.
Weird…why is she suddenly not texting me when she was keen AF to text me back continually before? It’s then I have a sort of epiphany: she’s super ON. She’s clearly interested. What if she just wants to come over and fuck?
Within a minute or two I’m like fuck it–most leads on Tinder flake anyway, what’s one more? So I text: unless you want to come over to watch a movie tonight, I live in X.
Guess who replies almost immediately that she’s coming over, what’s my address?
Yep. Tinder 2.0.
OK Boomer: duh, it’s a hookup app.
And in the intervening time I realize my understanding of how this app works is all wrong. It’s a hookup app–but I didn’t understand that a hookup app doesn’t mean, you match, go on a date, and eventually fuck with NSA. No, it means you hookup with someone on the same day/night–going directly to Netflix and chill.
No date, no seduction, no romance. Just, get a chick to come over. Have some drinks or smoke some weed, put on a movie, and fuck.
Which is exactly what happened last night.
Oh, and before I get to the sex, understand, this chick has, “no hookups thanks,” written in her bio. Obviously not true–a shit test you should just ignore.
Example of how to escalate when a girl is at your place.
Since some guys have trouble escalating, let’s go through the moves.
She shows up, dressed in yoga pants and an athletic top showing midriff under a black hoodie. She’s half black, prettyish, nice breasts, but a little thicker through the ass and legs for a girl who’s only 20. A low 7, maybe a high 6 depending on the guy. Anyway, I hug her hello, tell her to take off her shoes and come in.
Next, I ask her if she wanted some wine or a drink, but tell her I was going to smoke a joint. She said she’d smoke with me so we did that on my balcony–I started initiating kino at this point, pushing her away playfully when I teased verbally, grabbing her hand to look at her nails, grazing my fingers over the tattoo she had on her forearm.
We finish the joint and go inside. She’s seen A Star is Born, my go-to, so I put on Bull Durham, one of my favorite baseball movies–if you don’t know it, in the first 10 minutes Nuke, the pitcher, is fucking a chick in the locker room. Very sexy opening.
We sit down on the couch and I put my hand on her leg. After a minute she reaches up and puts her hand lightly on the back of my neck; clear IOI, so I turn and kiss her.
We make out for awhile and I take off her shirt–nice lovely C-cups–and start by touching them as we kiss and then I start kissing her nipples. She’s kinda moaning and writhing at this point, so I whisper in her ear: are you a naughty little girl?
I pick her up and carry her into the bedroom, take off her pants (no panties) and start fingering her as we kiss. At this point I grab her throat and squeeze lightly. She coos, so I know I can do that going forward.
Then, “get on your knees. Take off my pants and suck my cock.”
She does and she’s fucking loving it. After a few minutes I face fuck her, then throw her back on the bed. She wants it raw, but I put on a condom (seems like the best choice given the circumstances). We start out in missionary, slow at first, but then I fuck her harder and harder and put my hand on her throat, choking her slightly, and she’s moaning the whole time.
Then I turn her over and start fucking her from behind, spanking her ass, pushing her head down into the mattress. I’m about to come so I stop, tell her to get on top of me. She does and starts grinding hard and I can tell she’s going to come–if she wasn’t going to I would have gotten the vibrator out. One thing I believe strongly is that sex should be good for her too.
Anyway, she comes hard after a few minutes, and then I get on top of her and fuck her until I come.
Broke the player rule as I let her stay–although it was actually more of a thing where we both fell asleep after a few minutes of cuddling and talking. By the time I got up, however, she was gone. Haven’t gotten a text from her yet, but it’s still a bit early.
Use Tinder as a supplement, almost purely for hook-ups.
So I guess my advice for guys using Tinder is: don’t try to set up dates. Don’t be serious. Exchange a few texts. If she’s texting consistently back and feels on, invite her over, and if she balks at that, ask her for a drink or coffee near your place. Then fucking pull.
If she doesn’t respond, or responds and then goes dark, leave the connection up–don’t unmatch. Then ping your leads after 8-9pm occasionally, or wait for them to ping you.
Not sure what a ping is? Read Mr. V’s guide to texting girls.
My guess on this is half that younger chicks are actually pretty uncomfortable going on a date, because they’ve never been on one before, and half that this is just how it works these days: people hookup in lieu of having relationships. Maybe a hookup turns into a relationship, but that’s how it starts.
Again, DO NOT STOP COLD APPROACHING or learning cold approach. I would not have recognized this opportunity without having that skill, and I wouldn’t have gotten the first Tinder girl if I hadn’t day gamed her. My advice remains the same: use online to supplement, hook-up.